#37708: "Hecate vs heroes"
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وصف مفصل
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• يرجى نسخ / لصق رسالة الخطأ التي تراها على الشاشة ، إن وجدت.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• يرجى توضيح ما تريد القيام به ، ماذا فعلت وما حدث
31 and 48
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• يرجى نسخ / لصق النص المعروض باللغة الإنجليزية بدلاً من لغتك. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. هل هذا النص متاح في translation system ؟ إذا كانت الإجابة بنعم ، فهل تمت ترجمتها لأكثر من 24 ساعة؟
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• يرجى توضيح اقتراحك بدقة وإيجاز بحيث يكون من السهل قدر الإمكان فهم ما تعنيه.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• ما الذي تم عرضه على الشاشة عندما تم حظرك (شاشة فارغة؟ جزء من واجهة اللعبة؟ رسالة خطأ؟)
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• أي جزء من القواعد تم مخالفته في تصميم التبني لدى BGA
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• هل انتهاك القواعد مرئي عند إعادة اللعب؟ إذا كانت الإجابة بنعم ، فبأي رقم؟
31 and 48
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• ما هو نشاط اللعبة الذي أردت القيام به؟
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• ماذا تحاول أن تفعل لتحريك هذا العمل اللعبة؟
31 and 48
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• ماذا حدث عند محاولة القيام بهذا (رسالة خطأ ، رسالة شريط حالة اللعبة ، ...)؟
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• في أي خطوة من اللعبة حدثت المشكلة (ما هو تعليمة اللعبة الحالية)؟
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• ماذا حدث عند محاولة إجراء هذه الحركة داخل اللعبة (رسالة خطأ ، رسالة شريط حالة اللعبة ، ...)؟
31 and 48
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• يرجى وصف مشكلة العرض. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• يرجى نسخ / لصق النص المعروض باللغة الإنجليزية بدلاً من لغتك. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. هل هذا النص متاح في translation system ؟ إذا كانت الإجابة بنعم ، فهل تمت ترجمتها لأكثر من 24 ساعة؟
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
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• يرجى توضيح اقتراحك بدقة وإيجاز بحيث يكون من السهل قدر الإمكان فهم ما تعنيه.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• ما هو متصفحك؟
Google Chrome v89
سجل التاريخ
In cases where the interaction of two powers is too complex for us to code -or- if the interaction is causing confusion for BGA players -or- if we determine the interaction is very unfair, we will add more bans.
Some examples:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=21093 - too difficult to code
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=29287 - confusing
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=33571 - unfair
I think the official rules don't include *any* bans between normal gods and heroes, because they don't expect you to mix them in the same game (that's for expert players only). For example, the official rules do not ban Circe vs heroes, but this is clearly unfair and must be banned.
Also, the "How to play" page now lists the banned matchups for each power: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpsantorini
For Hecate vs Heroes, I think this can be fixed and am happy to help to reduce Hecate's ban list.
It is still my view that the treatment of hero powers vs God powers is incomplete at best, but mostly they did not consider these interactions at all. Remember, the official rules do not ban Clio vs. any heroes, but they should (it is not fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and discard it... nor is it fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and return it).
The situation with Hecate vs. heroes is the same. There's no fair way to resolve the problem of a partially-cancelled hero turn. Imagine a one-time power related to moving, where the hero's movement is valid but the building is not. It's not fair to cancel only the build portion of the turn and still discard the one-time power about movement (you wouldn't have wasted the one-time ability if you couldn't do the whole turn). Nor is it fair to let them keep the one-time power (since technically it was used). Nor is it fair to just cancel the entire turn. There's no good way to resolve this interaction. The rules here are completely broken. It should reman banned to remain fair.
I must disagree with you. I think Hecate vs Heroes should not be banned. The heroes can still use their power as in a normal game and if well used, it could be very difficult for Hecate to counter (for example, Bellerophon is a clear example of a hero that would be very strong against Hecate). The thing is, as an hero you have to make sure you use your power well. If you suspect Hecate might interrupt your turn, then just don't use your power at all and save it for later. I understand that implementing Hecate vs Heroes could lead to some changes (and that would be perfectly understandable)... But I wouldn't mind to play with an hero against Hecate, I wouldn't feel like I was in disadvantage.
اضف لهذا البلاغ
- تعريف طاولة/تعريف حركة
- هل حلَت F5 المشكلة؟
- هل ظهرت المشكلة عدة مرات؟ كل مرة؟ بطريقة عشوائية؟
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
