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#44827: "Added new game length options for Wizard (more balance, more benefits)"

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Jul 14 th 2021 02:14 • abcdd2829 • لم يتم تحليل هذا الاقتراح من قبل المطورين حتى الآن:

clone from boardgamearena.com/bug?id=44791

Jul 14 th 2021 07:22 • Berlas • لم يتم تحليل هذا الاقتراح من قبل المطورين حتى الآن:

Good idea to add the 7 rounds rule, but the arena rules should stick to 10 to nds as is

Jul 14 th 2021 08:02 • abcdd2829 • لم يتم تحليل هذا الاقتراح من قبل المطورين حتى الآن:

Thanks,
I think more option for game length is good to play

Jul 15 th 2021 02:19 • MGoulet • يرغب المطورون في الحصول على مزيد من المعلومات حول هذا الاقتراح:

Adding a 7 rounds is ok and pretty easy to do it (option A) since all configurations go up to 7 cards. But, adding 2 more rounds is what you really like (and vote for)? Maybe a configuration like 2 to 8 cards and skip the 1 card.

For option B, C-1 and C-2 it can be played in 3 or 4 players games (restrictive).

Jul 15 th 2021 03:46 • abcdd2829 • يرغب المطورون في الحصول على مزيد من المعلومات حول هذا الاقتراح:

Hi MGoulet

My purpose is every player can enjoy game with "10~15 min"

Now "Round 5" is just to feel the game, luck is more important.(card less ,so difficult to reverse game)

I strongly want 1 round because of the "foresight" rule,so I think 7 rounds is most easily.

If I need more game fun, I may need more cards, if only 10~15 minutes, I think maybe
5~6 turn for 3~6 player
3 player (1.5.9.13.17.20)
4 player (1.4.7.10.13.15)
5 player (1.3.5.7.9.11.12)
6 player (1.3.5.7.9.10)

We all like to play this game, but a round takes a long time. I play "Round 5" most often. I often encounter an opponent who feels that the "fifth round" is unbalanced, but does not have more time to play the "Amigo Championship Rules".

Thanks

Jul 15 th 2021 07:11 • abcdd2829 • يرغب المطورون في الحصول على مزيد من المعلومات حول هذا الاقتراح:

Hi MGoulet

I think "7 rounds" is good to speed play(card is less), "customized" as follow is high efficiency to play(need more time).

Each has its own advantages

5~6 turn for 3~6 player
3 player (1.5.9.13.17.20)
4 player (1.4.7.10.13.15)
5 player (1.3.5.7.9.11.12)
6 player (1.3.5.7.9.10)

Thanks

Jul 17 th 2021 04:48 • abcdd2829 • يرغب المطورون في الحصول على مزيد من المعلومات حول هذا الاقتراح:

Hi MGoulet
Sorry to modify customized.
After I talk with other voting players, it may be revised as follows and it may not take more time.

imgur.com/ORu2M3U

all player need first turn for the "foresight" rule, last turn for "Jester".

3 player use "5 gap" add. (i.e. 1.6.11.16.20)
4 player use "4 gap" add. (i.e. 1.5.9.13.15)
5 player use "3 gap" add. (i.e. 1.4.7.10.12)
6 player use "2 gap" add. (i.e. 1.3.5.7.9.10) or (1.3.5.7.10)

3 player total use 162 cards (save 51% time with "Amigo Tournament Rules"
4 player total use 172 cards (save 53% time with "Amigo Tournament Rules"
5 player total use 170 cards (save 54% time with "Amigo Tournament Rules"
6 player type 1 total use 210 cards (save 37% time with "Default Rules"
6 player type 2 total use 156 cards (save 53% time with "Default Rules"

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Jul 18 th 2021 20:16 • MGoulet • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

Thanks for the information.

For 6 players, maybe you should consider (1.3.5.8.10) = Total 162 or (1.3.6.8.10) = Total 168 (it's more in line with the others configurations.

I will rewrite the options "5 rounds" for (First 5 rounds)
I'll add "Last 5 rounds" and for your configuration, i'll display "Special 5 rounds". Is that ok with you?

Jul 19 th 2021 06:23 • abcdd2829 • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

Hi MGoulet
I am confused to choose (1.3.5.8.10) or (1.3.6.8.10) or (1.3.5.7.9.10) or (1.3.5.7.10).

After talking about other voting players,keep time-consuming ideas.

Add thinking logic is as follows

It need has "few cards rounds" (some players may not have a specific color) and "many cards rounds" for skill play.

It is better to need "first round" and two "less card rounds" and two "many card rounds" and the last round.

3 player use 1.6.11.16.20 => 1.2.4.11.16.20 (total use 162 cards) not change time-consuming.
3 player use 1.5.9.13.15 => 1.2.3.9.13.15 (total use 172 cards) not change time-consuming.
5 player use 1.4.7.10.12 => 1.2.3.8.10.12 (total use 180 cards).
6 player use 1.2.3.7.9.10 (total use 192 cards).
or
6 player use 1.3.6.8.10 (total use 168 cards).

If there are more players, more cards can be used because they can "pre-select cards" to save time.

So I think 1.2.3.7.9.10 (a total of 192 cards are used). It could be better.

imgur.com/KUg0S9S
red for "few cards rounds"
yellow for "many cards rounds"
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I think need keep original "First 5 rounds" option for new player feel the game.
I think the "last 5 rounds" play a good play in skills.
I will play it in the actual game, but we take turns to play.
It is fair to every predicted player.
That is, 3 players play 3 rounds. 6 people play 6 rounds, no final round.

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But I think we need to add "7 rounds" because it is fun and some voting players like it.
It's easy to play.

Thanks

Jul 19 th 2021 14:02 • MGoulet • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

All your suggestion is 5 or 6 rounds, not 7 rounds =\

Jul 19 th 2021 17:01 • abcdd2829 • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

Hi MGoulet
"7 rounds" is (1.2.3.4.5.6.7) for easily play option.
It is more depth than "first 5 rounds"
Thanks

Jul 19 th 2021 18:47 • MGoulet • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

Ok, so you want a 7 rounds + a special configuration in 5 rounds

Jul 20 th 2021 06:09 • abcdd2829 • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

Hi MGoulet
Yes,
and you want add "last player rounds" or not?
3 players (17.18.19)
4 players (11.12.13.14)
5 players (7.8.9.10.11)
6 players (4.5.6.7.8.9)
Thanks

Jul 20 th 2021 07:13 • abcdd2829 • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

Hi MGoulet
Yes,

I want

A."7 rounds" (1.2.3.4.5.6.7)

B. "special configuration 6 rounds"
3 player use 1.6.11.16.20 => 1.2.4.11.16.20 (total use 162 cards) not change time-consuming.
4 player use 1.5.9.13.15 => 1.2.3.9.13.15 (total use 172 cards) not change time-consuming.
5 player use 1.4.7.10.12 => 1.2.3.8.10.12 (total use 180 cards).
6 player use 1.2.3.7.9.10 (total use 192 cards).

and you want add "last player rounds" or not?
C. "last player rounds"
3 players (17.18.19)
4 players (11.12.13.14)
5 players (7.8.9.10.11)
6 players (4.5.6.7.8.9)

D. rewrite the options "5 rounds" for (First 5 rounds)

Thanks

Jul 21 st 2021 12:54 • abcdd2829 • يوافق المطورون على أنها فكرة جيدة ويعتزمون العمل عليها:

Hi MGoulet
so modify as follow

A."7 rounds" (1.2.3.4.5.6.7)

B. "special configuration 6 rounds"
3 player use 1.2.4.11.16.20 (total use 162 cards).
4 player use 1.2.3.9.13.15 (total use 172 cards).
5 player use 1.2.3.8.10.12 (total use 180 cards).
6 player use 1.2.3.7.9.10 (total use 192 cards).

C. rewrite the options "5 rounds" for (First 5 rounds)

D. others "last 5 rounds"?

Thanks

Jul 23 rd 2021 03:18 • MGoulet • تم تنفيذ هذا الاقتراح:

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Jul 23 rd 2021 09:03 • abcdd2829 • تم تنفيذ هذا الاقتراح:

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